Jen Frey is a member of Creed and Culture’s Editorial Advisory Board. She sat down with Ross Douthan at the New York Times to discuss the value and importance of the humanities.

What’s really driving the humanities crisis in higher education? As enrollment and reading decline, I asked Jennifer Frey, a professor of philosophy, what it was like to run a liberal arts program that was gutted. I wanted to know whether she thinks the age of A.I. could bring back the kind of education she says is fundamental to human formation.

Read (or listen) to the full interview at the New York Times.